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Are you his friend or his Dad | Father with sons podcast | RaisingKarter Podcast

Are you his friend or his Dad | Father with sons podcast | RaisingKarter Podcast

Should Fathers Be Friends or Just Dads? Lessons from Ja Morant's Relationship with His Father. This is a podcast dedicated to fathers with sons, fathers that have sons.

Episode Description: In this thought-provoking episode of Raising Karter, host Ramon Weatherall Sr. and his 7-year-old son Karter Weatherall explore the complex issue of father-son relationships. Using the experiences of NBA player Ja Morant and his father as a case study, they delve into the question of whether fathers should strive to be friends with their sons or just be dads. They examine the impact of being too friendly or too distant on a son's development and well-being. Along the way, they share their own stories and offer practical advice for fathers looking to strike the right balance in their relationships with their sons.

 

Join Ramon and Karter as they navigate this challenging topic with honesty and insight, and discover how fathers can truly make a difference in their sons' lives. Don't miss this engaging conversation that is sure to inspire and encourage fathers everywhere!

Transcript

Ramon Weatherall Sr (00:00.418)

This is the Raising Carter Podcast and I am your host, Ramon Weatherall Sr. And the Raising Carter Podcast, I know, I know. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. The Raising Carter Podcast is a podcast dedicated to fathers, fathers with sons, fathers that have sons that are concerned and...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (00:29.11)

that are concerned with their future, their health, their happiness, and they just wanna be more locked in. And there's nothing wrong with that. But I got a question for you guys. I wanna ask you guys a question. Are you your son's friend or are you his daddy? You heard me right. I said, are you his friend when he describes you? Does he say, oh yeah, that's my...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (00:58.87)

My dad's my best friend or does he say, yo, that's my dad, that's my dad, that's my daddy right there. Because I bring all this up because if you a fan of this podcast, if you follow this podcast, you probably also a sports fan and the John Moran situation, the John Moran situation. And I know when you first heard it, just like me,

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (01:28.298)

We were like, man, what's up with his dad? Why isn't his dad getting this locked in? The first incident that we heard of, why now you got another incident and there are allegedly more four or five other incidents that he, it's like six incidents all together. And let's not get it twisted. I don't wanna get it twisted that, yo, his dad.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (01:58.874)

got him to where he's at. He got him to where he's at. Nobody was recruiting, trying to recruit John Moran. His dad worked with him, worked with him, got him at least a look so he could go to that small, you know, that small college and then once he got there, of course he did his thing, but we can't take that away from him. But...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (02:27.37)

Are you his friend or are you his father? Because a lot of times I seen videos where you would see his father with him and he looked just like one of the boys. He's right in there with the fellas with one of the boys. You can't tell the difference. And I think that's...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (02:54.158)

It's, you know, I want to get to that point, it's too late. You know, it's too late. I mean, I was watching maybe a documentary on him, John Moran, and he was talking about, his father was talking and he was saying that John really didn't respond well to him, you know, really getting on them, you know, the tough love, you know, riding them, you know, just being hard on them.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (03:23.126)

But his sister, she, it's no problem with her. She like bring it on. She said it herself, like, that don't bother me. But Jai, it bothered him. So I think his dad was like, this is not working. I wanna try to be more of his friend. And maybe that worked a little bit better, but we got what we got now. And...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (03:54.27)

A lot of times when, well, anytime, like I said in episodes before, you know, a few episodes before, when your son does something wrong, the first thing they gonna ask or up, you know, they gonna ask where you at. And that's what people ask. That's what people are saying. Where is his daddy? Where is his daddy? And I got a couple clips to prove that to you.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (04:23.53)

people with large platforms are saying things like this. Check it out.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (06:06.866)

And that's what a lot of people are saying. That's what a lot of people are saying. Is that 100% right? I'll probably say 75% right, you know? But we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. We don't know what his dad is telling them behind closed doors, but once you become more of a friend than a father...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (06:37.586)

your what you say has less push, has less power behind it.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (06:45.694)

And that's the thing. And let's keep it real, man. He's taking care of the family. Josh taking care of the family. He brought his mother and father and his little sister a mansion. He's the breadwinner. You know? So, I mean, at this point, what can you say? And especially when you...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (07:10.91)

have took on a role of just being the big homie or just being a friend, you out partying with him, you kicking it, aw bruh, you kinda asking for it. And let's not forget his mother, the incident in the shoe store. She goes into the shoe store, gets into it with the salesperson, and she calls him. She calls...

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (07:41.242)

one of the NBA's biggest young stars, probably the biggest star young star in the NBA to come down and deal with some mess with a salesperson at finish line.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (07:54.774)

He should have told his mama, "'Don't call me for this mess no more. "'Don't call me for this. "'Leave the store. "'Tell store security, but don't call me.'" People thought LeBron James was wrong back in the day when he's told his mama to sit her ass down. No, he wasn't wrong. He was right. And that's the same thing John Morant should have told his mama. Get out of that store. Why you in that store?

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (08:24.742)

acting a fool or whatever, you don't like the service, leave, but don't call me. And he's a fool for coming down there.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (08:37.442)

So a lot of the problem with him, obviously, is his family. And no matter if they give him 20, 25 games, 50 games, a full season, he needs to get away from his family for a little while. So that post that he wrote, that story, that post in his stories talking about bye, he should do that. He should get away from his family a little.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (09:07.41)

not his daughter, that's his responsibility, but your mama and your dad, all them, they need to live life without him.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (09:17.582)

for a while and he needs to get his stuff together. So fathers, remember, you are not your son's friend. You are way more important than that. Y'all can have friendly moments and have fun together, but you way more important than that. You are way more important than that. And when he does something wrong, they gonna ask where you at. It all falls back on you.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (09:47.838)

It all falls back on you. All right, let's watch. Let's listen to some more of this.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (09:57.634)

this video that I got with Officer Tatum.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (10:03.67)

You know, I don't agree with everything he says, but he has good points. That's another thing. You don't gotta agree with everything somebody says. You don't have to follow behind someone blindly to hear what they gotta say. To hear what they gotta say. I don't care what nobody say. I don't care what no man tells me. You know, everybody was given a brain, and sometimes,

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (10:34.23)

You know, they have viewpoints, but they can't have, you know, right things to say. And some of the things he's saying in this clip, I agree with you. Same thing with Stephen A. Smith. You know, I not agree with everything he says, but what I don't, what I do really disagree with is what people say. Well, I don't condone what he's doing.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (11:03.574)

but I don't think he should get this or that punishment. That's what got him in this trouble now. Look, if you do something wrong, you get punished for it. That's what got his butt in this situation that he's in right now, people that think just like you. People who think just like you, JJ Reddy. People who think just like that. No, you can't, man, look, if you do something wrong, you gotta pay for it. Did he do something wrong?

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (11:33.566)

I don't mean, it doesn't matter if it's legal or not, legal matters and all that. It doesn't matter. When somebody's trying to give you the bag, trying to hand over the NBA to you, you can't be running around with guns. It's common sense. You don't own the NBA. You don't own it. The owners own it. And they trying to hand it over to you. And they don't want some person.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (12:02.678)

doing acting like they some little gangster in the streets, being the face of their league that they make money off, that they have to sell merchandise and tickets off, and they have to get people to watch so they can pay you.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (12:22.179)

That's what they don't want. That's why, yeah, it may not be illegal, but it's a business. I'm trying to make money. I can't make money if people don't respect my product.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (14:10.368)

Let me stop it right there. See, that's why I say I don't agree with everything that brother said. Because first of all, the NBA is like 80% black. And we talking about one guy that's doing stuff like this. This ain't a whole, this ain't a group of people. This one guy who's doing this, okay?

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (14:33.442)

So don't group all black players in there. This one guy, who else is running around with guns and doing stupid like this? Name another player that's doing that. No, they ain't doing that. They trying to get paid. Okay, whether they love the game or not, or whether they, you know, the greatest player or not, this is one guy. This is one guy who's making this mistake. No, don't put all black players in this. You know, that's a person that's trying to push their.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (15:00.978)

Agenda right there. I don't got nothing to do with everybody. I watched the NBA for years The last guy who did this was gilbert arenas So stop that you know, that's why you gotta you gotta watch And and decipher what you listen to because a lot of people

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (15:24.386)

They like to push their agenda. This is one guy who's doing this, one black player. Not every black player is doing this. Now let's check out this last clip, what Stephen A is talking about.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (17:09.738)

And I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. All these people that wanna bring up, it's not illegal for him to have a gun. It's not, they just said it right there. They're trying to protect the integrity of their league. Basically what they're saying is they're trying to keep the money coming in.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (17:38.738)

and you not gonna get in the way of that.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (17:43.49)

Cause the league doesn't need you, you need the league. And that's what we have to let our sons understand. The world isn't all about them.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (17:57.898)

It's not all about you. When you walk into a job or you walk into school or you walk into any type of organization, if they have rules, you need to follow them. If not, then don't go there. I hate people that say, oh, I really, they at work and they say, oh, I really don't wanna be here. Oh, I hate this place. Then stay home. Don't come here.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (18:24.258)

Don't come, don't come to work. If you don't wanna do what they, people, your employer asks you to do, don't come.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (18:37.07)

Start your own business, start your own league. And when you do, you're gonna have things that you want the people that work for you or the people that are in your organization to do. I'm sure if you join the big three, Ice Cube don't want you walking around with guns and stuff like that. He gonna check you for that too. You're like, no man, you can't do that here.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (19:06.594)

So fathers, help your sons understand that. If you wanna be a part of something, when they sit you down and tell you these are the rules and regulations, right then and there, you have to understand and you have to be a young man or a man and tell yourself, okay, I wanna do this or I don't wanna do this. I wanna stay and get paid for my services or I'm out the door, because I don't agree with this stuff. But.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (19:36.202)

You can't have it both ways. You can't do what you want and then expect somebody to pay you your money. Nah, man. It don't work like that. It doesn't work like that. And I see, the last thing I wanna see, I seen some foolishness. I didn't even.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (19:54.87)

you know, download the videos like Jason Whitlock and his pure hatred for Allen Iverson saying John Moran is acting like Allen Iverson and rap music and Tupac made him do everything. John Moran.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (20:13.782)

probably don't even listen to Tupac. And I don't know, he might've been an Allen Iverson fan. His dad probably was. I don't know, but those are two different individuals. And that's the more crap that people, agendas people try to push down your throat. Allen Iverson and John Moran are two, Allen Iverson didn't grow up with a father and mother in the same house. And his father didn't work with him on basketball and all that stuff. You talking about two different guys.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (20:44.902)

Two different men. Yeah, I'm saying it wasn't perfect, but you talking about two different men and you got a guy who, I don't know, seems like he's jealous or just likes to push his hatred for black men or whatever it is, but that's two different individuals. Two different individuals. See, I'm rocking that.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (21:13.214)

Allen Iverson, legends, the legend line, because he was a legend, he was a legend. He's not John Moran, he's not John Moran, you know? And I'm not condemning John Moran, he's just a young man that needs to grow up, but the two people aren't at similar at all with the way they grew up, the way they, you know, Allen Iverson was from the streets.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (21:42.31)

You know, he was from the streets. He grew up poor. He grew up with nothing. He didn't have a father. Alan Iverson's mother didn't even care about him playing basketball until coaches told her, look, your son can really do something. You need to start paying attention.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (22:04.514)

John Moran's parents, with him his whole life, still with him. Whatever I say about him, whatever you say about him, they still right there. So, Jason Whitlock, man, you can go on somewhere with that. We know what's up with you. We know that you just don't like the man and that's all good, you know? People don't like you, but you can't compare the two.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (22:33.214)

So, dance.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (22:37.186)

Be your son's father, not his friend. Don't blow the bag. Don't blow the bag. And another thing, once your son becomes grown,

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (22:54.498)

for all these people that say, oh, well my son gets older, like, you know, officer, all these people, you know, do you have an adult son? Because once your son gets grown, they're grown. They're gonna do what, they're gonna do the things they wanna do. There's nothing really more that you can tell them. The only thing you have on your side once your son is an adult is the fact that they have in their minds that they don't wanna.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (23:21.718)

disappoints you or they don't wanna let you down, they don't wanna embarrass you. That's the only thing you got going for you. All this stuff that you think you can still tell your sons what to do once they're a grown man, man, that's some BS. You are living in a fantasy world. All the work you done has to be done before they hit 21 and they out of your house.

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (23:48.882)

If you haven't done it by then, it's too late. It's too late, Dad. So that is the episode, this week's episode of the Raising Carter Podcast. I am your host, Ramon Weatherall Sr. I hope you guys like this podcast. I know a lot of the fans of the Raising Carter Podcast are sports fans, so I try to bring that in there, bring that element, bring that element of, you know, sports and entertainment because

 

Ramon Weatherall Sr (24:18.09)

I'm a sports fan, but I know you guys are too. This podcast is for you. So dads, be a father, not a friend to your sons. And that is this week's episode of the Raise the Kindle podcast. If you like this episode, share it on social media, like it, comment on YouTube, support the podcast, because we are here for you. And I want to tell you, peace.